IF I'VE WON IF I'VE LOST

Alberto, Giampiero and Sergio are just three kids when in 1982 they founded the punk-rock band KINA, in the small mountain town of Aosta, Italy.
From then to 1997, they became one of the leading groups of the Italian and European independent music scene, carrying on a rigorous musical and existential path, based on the concepts of self-production and self-management, recording a dozen of fundamental records in the history of international hardcore punk. These are years of endless travel across Europe on a shabby van, sharing the alternative life experiences and the battles that animate the anarchist and antagonist movement: the struggle for home and for social spaces; the anti-militarism cause; the refusal of nuclear power; the anti-fascist resistance.
Then, like all stories, their partnership ends too. The paths of life that everyone has taken, are no longer compatible with the commitment and energies that the KINA project requires: work, children, new interests and new horizons require different existential choices and trajectories.
Today those three provincial kids have become fifty-year-olds, with their professions, their passions, their families. The story they lived together and made them grow, is what they bring with them in everyday life. Without certainties and with the doubts of a generation that grew up between the hopes of the 70s and the disillusionment of the following decades.
Looking back at them, those years seem to carry the question that suggested the title of the most successful KINA album: SE HO VINTO SE HO PERSO, if I've won if I've lost...

  • Gian Luca Rossi
    Director
    Coal Sea, Le Menestrel, I killed Berlusconi (Ho ammazzato Berlusconi)
  • Gian Luca Rossi
    Writer
  • Sergio Milani
    Key Cast
  • Gianpiero Capra
    Key Cast
  • Alberto Ventrella
    Key Cast
  • Project Title (Original Language):
    SE HO VINTO SE HO PERSO
  • Project Type:
    Documentary
  • Genres:
    Music, biographic, social, punk, history, politic
  • Runtime:
    1 hour 18 minutes
  • Completion Date:
    July 1, 2020
  • Production Budget:
    25,000 USD
  • Country of Origin:
    Italy
  • Country of Filming:
    Germany, Italy, Switzerland
  • Language:
    German, Italian
  • Shooting Format:
    Digital
  • Aspect Ratio:
    19:9
  • Film Color:
    Black & White and Color
  • First-time Filmmaker:
    No
  • Student Project:
    No
  • L.A.PUNK FILM FESTIVAL
    LOS ANGELES
    United States
    September 1, 2020
    WORLD PREMIERE
    BEST INTERNATIONAL DOCUMENTARY
  • TAKT FILM FEST
    NOVI SAD
    Serbia
    September 25, 2020
    EUROPEAN PREMIERE
    BEST DOCUMENTARY and BEST SOUND ENGINEERING
  • PERSO - Perugia Social Film Festival
    Perugia
    Italy
    October 7, 2020
    Italian Première
    Audience Award
  • ESSEX DOC FEST
    ESSEX
    United Kingdom
    October 9, 2020
    UK PREMIERE
    Official Selection
  • Social World International Film Festival
    Vico Equense
    Italy
    October 11, 2020
  • LECCE FILM FESTIVAL
    Lecce
    Italy
    January 15, 2021
    Official Selection
  • BARE BONES Music & Documentary film festival
    Muskogee, Oklhahoma
    United States
    May 13, 2021
    Official Selection
Director Biography - Gian Luca Rossi

Gian Luca Rossi

Graduated in film direction at ESEC in Paris and in theater direction at CIC in Rome. He has directed theatrical performances, short films, documentaries and television broadcasts. He has also collaborated on productions by other authors as assistant director, cameraman and / or director of photography. In 2008 he made his debut in Italian theaters with the feature film "I killed Berlusconi", written and directed together with Daniele Giometto. He has been the owner of the KOROVA production house for over ten years, through which he has produced, conceived and created numerous audiovisual works, including his documentary "Mare Carbone", awarded as the best Italian documentary at the 18th Turin CinemAmbiente and screened in more than 30 festivals all around the world. He carries out teaching activities within schools and training centers, teaching acting, scenic movement and techniques of cinema and audiovisual.

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Director Statement

There are stories that deserve to be told.
Some you discover one day, by chance. And the next day you are ready to face them. To give them a shape. So it was with my last job, Mare Carbone.
Others need time. They stay there, in the memory drawer. They stratify, open to different points of view, mature in silence, without you noticing. They change, while you are changing. They grow up with you. Until, at a point in your path, you feel that the moment has come. That that story belongs to you and telling it also means a little telling yourself. Then, doing it becomes a need.
This is the case with If I won if I lost.
I have been thinking for years about the history - the little legend - of the Kina, to make a film about them. And over time the desire grew, it became more urgent. Only one thing was missing: the key that did not reduce the film to a simple musical documentary, which would then have been the greatest possible betrayal towards them: because what makes KINA really interesting - at times unique - in the European underground panorama , is precisely the impossibility of separating music from life, the need for expression from daily commitment. It could not be reduced to "a prominent group of the international punk scene". Their specificity is not there.
And you couldn't tell the whole thing with detachment, without getting involved ...